Wally, my heart goes out to you. π As an American who has just come through the most unbelievable 4 years of the 66 years of life I have lived on this earth, I, too, am appalled at the Anger, Vitriol, Incivility and ARROGANCE of some human beings.
I donβt understand what has happened in the generations since I was born that has made people so UNKIND, LACKING in EMPATHY and UNAFRAID to DISPLAY, what I can only call, a LACK of ADMIRABLE CHARACTER.
There will always be differing perspectives in a world where human beings are in charge, but there is NEVER a valid argument for MISTREATING other human beings, disagreement or not. I have seen FAR TOO MUCH of this MEAN-SPIRITED and PREJUDICE behavior. π
We need to find a way to return DECENCY to our cultural and societal conversations.
And yet Labour is re-elected and re-elected and re-elected andβ¦. What is wrong with Canadian voters? Did labour put something in the water that turned the vast majority of Canadian men into cucks like Justin Castro?
In the last two elections, the liberals did not win a majority. In fact, the conservative party got more votes. However, in a parliamentary system, the government is formed by a coalition when nobody gets an outright majority. Therefore, the far left NDP joins forces with the liberals, and they form the government, locking the conservative party out. Thatβs unlikely to happen in the next election, thank God.
You will never achieve the very correct and right goals, you've laid out for your country, until you (in the general sense) get a majority of the populous to agree and move together in that direction. Without that, nothing will change.
We have seen in the west, that shouting at the government from the sidelines or even the streets, does nothing - until the numbers tip a certain point, and the elected officials see a consequence hanging in the balance.
It took 4 years of destruction in the states and around the world, for conservative Americans to move together, in enough numbers to gain the chance to temporarily right the ship. What you're now seeing now, is the deep state clutching pearls and running, over the potential consequences they face - that they never thought they'd have to. The will to see them drug from office and locked up is there, but only possible because the people came together and demanded it. And just the threat of that, has them scattering and changing course.
Without the numbers and solidarity, the people will never take their governments back. Without the threat of consequence, their governments will always turn tyrannical and corrupt.
The key to the issue you highlighted and all others, is large numbers of engaged, committed and persistent citizens. This has always been where the power lies, but the people traded that power away to the regimes, over decades for just 3 things - Comfort Convenience and Entertainment.
Until you undo that trade, you will never take your governments, cultures and countries back.
I have been a middle of the road conservative, never voted for the Current PM. After the past few years iI now consider myself Only Conservative. Not leaning right, Not leaning Left. ONLY CONSERVATIVE.
But I do have one thing to say, you may not agree with me on this, the conservatives may want to modify their strategy a bit.
Have we forgot what doomed the Democrats. The never end of DT this DT that. He is this He is That. We need to branch out our nets and focus not on just the incumbent, but everywhere else, everyone else'
Why is everyone surprised by Canadian behavior? Shortly after WW II when the few surviving Jews were desperate to leave the DP camps and get out of Europe, a Canadian minister announced: βEven one [
Putting people (Jews, Polacks and whomever else they found but no one ever talks about those poeple) in cattle cars for applauding the people who put Jews in cattle cars..
You can save a lot of trouble by just acknowledging that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western civilization and setting immigration policy accordingly. Islam directly calls for the killing of Christians and Jews (anyone who won't convert). Historically it's been an aggressively expansionist colonizer, but unlike European colonizers it never relinquishes control over conquered lands.
Sweden has begun deporting Muslims after experiencing the worst spasm of chaotic violence in centuries. It's time for the West in general to face reality.
Anybody who cannot adapt to western civilization and its standards as these people cannot, have no business being a part of western civilization.
If these people wish to live in a country that permits the sort of behavior weβve seen Most recently in Montreal, Toronto, other parts of Canada, Let them remain in the country they came from. And that is what we need to be sending them back to.
You mentioned that Canada is supposed to be a βcivilized country,β It is demonstrable that the ideology called βprogressivismβ is some distance from the high water mark of the former collective Canadian self-image. Ruling with an a priori commitment to ANY ideology is a bad idea. Ideology is for opposition parties. Leading a nation that wants to be a free and open community requires a carefully balanced pragmatism, a politcal idea that has been lost on the present prime minister and government.
I don't wish for you to misunderstand me here, so let me be clear. Is there something about the rape and murder of hundreds of young women, of the torture and killing of small children, that turns brain dead peckerheads like you on? Are you not aware that there was a ceasefire in place on October 7, and that Hamas broke it? Are you truly this God damned stupid?
Go crawl back under whatever slime covered rock you came from.
Like you I am disgusted and ashamed by what has gone on in Montreal and elsewhere. You say this is βnot who we as a country areβ. You are wrong. This is exactly who we as a country have become.
I cannot tell you how much I hope you are wrong about that. Perhaps, if we can get rid of Justin, who supported the ICC decision, we can turn this around.
I have quite a few Canadian friends and relatives and visited my uncleβs farm a lot as a kid. I hate to see what has devolved there and am afraid weβre not too far behind unless we course correct.
If we do I hope it will influence our northern cousins.
I would say I am not ashamed to be Canadian - I have always loved my country. I despise the βruling partyβ - they are NOT leaders and the level of chaos and ridiculousness they have brought with them is unprecedented & unwelcome.
No, I'm not with you on the naturalized citizen thing. That becomes too easy to get rid of anyone you don't like when there's a new regime. *I'm* a naturalized Canadian citizen from the US and I can just see how, given enough time, the wokies or the hard-righters will start stripping and deporting naturalized citizens for free speech. But yeah, deport them's that's not a citizen. Time to get tough on the savages.
Of course youβre not with me on it, because youβre the one who has the potential to lose something valuable. Youβre American, I suspect that you are not one of the problem new citizens that my country has. Culturally, youβre undoubtedly a far better fit as well, So itβs not you Iβm addressing. Anything like this obviously has to have fairly stringent regulations built into the laws. However, people new to my country need to understand that we have certain standards and that if they donβt live up to them, we want them the hell gone. That starts with these goddamn Nazi types running around assaulting Jews. My parents fought in the second world war against exactly those kind of people. If they donβt understand that they leave their prejudices back home in their shithole countries, as your president elect has described them previously, then they need to be removed.
You are probably not aware of it, but over the past several decades, Canada has stripped citizenship from over 20 people for Holocaust denial, or issues involving the Jews. Itβs looking obvious to me that we need to do a little more of that, until people get the idea: not in this country.
Wasn't Ernst Zundel one of them? Like 30 years ago?
No I didn't know we were doing that customarily. But it makes me a little uncomfortable, mostly because of how much partisan extremists could abuse it. You make some good points and I'm with you with "Not in this country," and I have zero problem kicking all the Islamofascists out if they're not citizens.
I suppose you can include naturalized citizens who maybe were accepted before they got radicalized (or they already were, but hid it well), but then, what about people born here that you can't deport? Why give them a free ride? Also, how do we fix it so that Canada can't just deport anyone who's upset whatever party happens to be in power?
I agree. I am a prof suspended for 13 months because I called Hamas Nazis to a stranger in Pakistan. My private message was taken illegally and given to a Palestinian prof who along with the Vice Provost suspended me. They have harassed me, defamed me and threatened me over this! Threatened me with police arrest. And the man who filed the human rights complaint @waelramadan48 is an overt anti semite. And the official Claimant is Melanie Spence Ariemma the vice provost. The corruption is staggering. Two human rights complaints against him dismissed. The U of Guelph is essentially saying that if u say u stand with Israel you can be fired but anti Semitism is now the baseline position of the U of Guelph. They need to be named and shamed
The problem is Wally, Canada has a spinelss, feckless, DEI, woke, WEF loving Prime Minister. Trudeau has done more harm to Canada than all other PM's combined. He will call out the war act on a peaceful protest over Covid, freezing their bank accounts and arresting them - and allow the actions of ignorant, abohorrent hate mongers to yell and scream their evil in Montreal (and elsewhere). This is what happens when you allow an uber-liberal to run a country - they will destroy it as Trudeau has been on a path to do so!
The skank actually was running two Second Cup franchises in a Jewish hospital in Montreal. The franchisor shut her down as soon as this came out. Good on them.
Wally, my heart goes out to you. π As an American who has just come through the most unbelievable 4 years of the 66 years of life I have lived on this earth, I, too, am appalled at the Anger, Vitriol, Incivility and ARROGANCE of some human beings.
I donβt understand what has happened in the generations since I was born that has made people so UNKIND, LACKING in EMPATHY and UNAFRAID to DISPLAY, what I can only call, a LACK of ADMIRABLE CHARACTER.
There will always be differing perspectives in a world where human beings are in charge, but there is NEVER a valid argument for MISTREATING other human beings, disagreement or not. I have seen FAR TOO MUCH of this MEAN-SPIRITED and PREJUDICE behavior. π
We need to find a way to return DECENCY to our cultural and societal conversations.
And yet Labour is re-elected and re-elected and re-elected andβ¦. What is wrong with Canadian voters? Did labour put something in the water that turned the vast majority of Canadian men into cucks like Justin Castro?
In the last two elections, the liberals did not win a majority. In fact, the conservative party got more votes. However, in a parliamentary system, the government is formed by a coalition when nobody gets an outright majority. Therefore, the far left NDP joins forces with the liberals, and they form the government, locking the conservative party out. Thatβs unlikely to happen in the next election, thank God.
You will never achieve the very correct and right goals, you've laid out for your country, until you (in the general sense) get a majority of the populous to agree and move together in that direction. Without that, nothing will change.
We have seen in the west, that shouting at the government from the sidelines or even the streets, does nothing - until the numbers tip a certain point, and the elected officials see a consequence hanging in the balance.
It took 4 years of destruction in the states and around the world, for conservative Americans to move together, in enough numbers to gain the chance to temporarily right the ship. What you're now seeing now, is the deep state clutching pearls and running, over the potential consequences they face - that they never thought they'd have to. The will to see them drug from office and locked up is there, but only possible because the people came together and demanded it. And just the threat of that, has them scattering and changing course.
Without the numbers and solidarity, the people will never take their governments back. Without the threat of consequence, their governments will always turn tyrannical and corrupt.
The key to the issue you highlighted and all others, is large numbers of engaged, committed and persistent citizens. This has always been where the power lies, but the people traded that power away to the regimes, over decades for just 3 things - Comfort Convenience and Entertainment.
Until you undo that trade, you will never take your governments, cultures and countries back.
I have been a middle of the road conservative, never voted for the Current PM. After the past few years iI now consider myself Only Conservative. Not leaning right, Not leaning Left. ONLY CONSERVATIVE.
No room for the Liberals or NDP. NOTHING!
Well done Mark.
Recruit as many as you can. The reasons to go hard conservative have never been clearer or more plentiful.
Agreed and Thank you!
But I do have one thing to say, you may not agree with me on this, the conservatives may want to modify their strategy a bit.
Have we forgot what doomed the Democrats. The never end of DT this DT that. He is this He is That. We need to branch out our nets and focus not on just the incumbent, but everywhere else, everyone else'
Why is everyone surprised by Canadian behavior? Shortly after WW II when the few surviving Jews were desperate to leave the DP camps and get out of Europe, a Canadian minister announced: βEven one [
Jew] is too many.β
Putting people (Jews, Polacks and whomever else they found but no one ever talks about those poeple) in cattle cars for applauding the people who put Jews in cattle cars..
A bit confusing but okay..
A bit of hyperbole, and a reminder of what these kinds of people did to the Jews in WW2
You can save a lot of trouble by just acknowledging that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western civilization and setting immigration policy accordingly. Islam directly calls for the killing of Christians and Jews (anyone who won't convert). Historically it's been an aggressively expansionist colonizer, but unlike European colonizers it never relinquishes control over conquered lands.
Sweden has begun deporting Muslims after experiencing the worst spasm of chaotic violence in centuries. It's time for the West in general to face reality.
Anybody who cannot adapt to western civilization and its standards as these people cannot, have no business being a part of western civilization.
If these people wish to live in a country that permits the sort of behavior weβve seen Most recently in Montreal, Toronto, other parts of Canada, Let them remain in the country they came from. And that is what we need to be sending them back to.
Agreed Wally
You mentioned that Canada is supposed to be a βcivilized country,β It is demonstrable that the ideology called βprogressivismβ is some distance from the high water mark of the former collective Canadian self-image. Ruling with an a priori commitment to ANY ideology is a bad idea. Ideology is for opposition parties. Leading a nation that wants to be a free and open community requires a carefully balanced pragmatism, a politcal idea that has been lost on the present prime minister and government.
genocide defenders
I don't wish for you to misunderstand me here, so let me be clear. Is there something about the rape and murder of hundreds of young women, of the torture and killing of small children, that turns brain dead peckerheads like you on? Are you not aware that there was a ceasefire in place on October 7, and that Hamas broke it? Are you truly this God damned stupid?
Go crawl back under whatever slime covered rock you came from.
Whaddaya expect from a guy who made up a name like that?
No we are not Defending Hamas.
Wake up
To Quote Our Priminister.
This is who we are!
No, that might be who Justin is, but it isn't who Canadians are. He's forgotten what we are about.
Like you I am disgusted and ashamed by what has gone on in Montreal and elsewhere. You say this is βnot who we as a country areβ. You are wrong. This is exactly who we as a country have become.
I cannot tell you how much I hope you are wrong about that. Perhaps, if we can get rid of Justin, who supported the ICC decision, we can turn this around.
I have quite a few Canadian friends and relatives and visited my uncleβs farm a lot as a kid. I hate to see what has devolved there and am afraid weβre not too far behind unless we course correct.
If we do I hope it will influence our northern cousins.
I wonder if Quebec seceding would improve things.
I would say I am not ashamed to be Canadian - I have always loved my country. I despise the βruling partyβ - they are NOT leaders and the level of chaos and ridiculousness they have brought with them is unprecedented & unwelcome.
No, I'm not with you on the naturalized citizen thing. That becomes too easy to get rid of anyone you don't like when there's a new regime. *I'm* a naturalized Canadian citizen from the US and I can just see how, given enough time, the wokies or the hard-righters will start stripping and deporting naturalized citizens for free speech. But yeah, deport them's that's not a citizen. Time to get tough on the savages.
Of course youβre not with me on it, because youβre the one who has the potential to lose something valuable. Youβre American, I suspect that you are not one of the problem new citizens that my country has. Culturally, youβre undoubtedly a far better fit as well, So itβs not you Iβm addressing. Anything like this obviously has to have fairly stringent regulations built into the laws. However, people new to my country need to understand that we have certain standards and that if they donβt live up to them, we want them the hell gone. That starts with these goddamn Nazi types running around assaulting Jews. My parents fought in the second world war against exactly those kind of people. If they donβt understand that they leave their prejudices back home in their shithole countries, as your president elect has described them previously, then they need to be removed.
You are probably not aware of it, but over the past several decades, Canada has stripped citizenship from over 20 people for Holocaust denial, or issues involving the Jews. Itβs looking obvious to me that we need to do a little more of that, until people get the idea: not in this country.
Wasn't Ernst Zundel one of them? Like 30 years ago?
No I didn't know we were doing that customarily. But it makes me a little uncomfortable, mostly because of how much partisan extremists could abuse it. You make some good points and I'm with you with "Not in this country," and I have zero problem kicking all the Islamofascists out if they're not citizens.
I suppose you can include naturalized citizens who maybe were accepted before they got radicalized (or they already were, but hid it well), but then, what about people born here that you can't deport? Why give them a free ride? Also, how do we fix it so that Canada can't just deport anyone who's upset whatever party happens to be in power?
I agree. I am a prof suspended for 13 months because I called Hamas Nazis to a stranger in Pakistan. My private message was taken illegally and given to a Palestinian prof who along with the Vice Provost suspended me. They have harassed me, defamed me and threatened me over this! Threatened me with police arrest. And the man who filed the human rights complaint @waelramadan48 is an overt anti semite. And the official Claimant is Melanie Spence Ariemma the vice provost. The corruption is staggering. Two human rights complaints against him dismissed. The U of Guelph is essentially saying that if u say u stand with Israel you can be fired but anti Semitism is now the baseline position of the U of Guelph. They need to be named and shamed
https://open.substack.com/pub/paulfinlayson/p/i-am-being-thrown-in-the-slowly-grinding?r=iy2ds&utm_medium=ios
The UN's war on the West using the Weapon of Mass Migration has only just begun. We are in big trouble.
The problem is Wally, Canada has a spinelss, feckless, DEI, woke, WEF loving Prime Minister. Trudeau has done more harm to Canada than all other PM's combined. He will call out the war act on a peaceful protest over Covid, freezing their bank accounts and arresting them - and allow the actions of ignorant, abohorrent hate mongers to yell and scream their evil in Montreal (and elsewhere). This is what happens when you allow an uber-liberal to run a country - they will destroy it as Trudeau has been on a path to do so!
Who is the skank with the nazi salute?
The skank actually was running two Second Cup franchises in a Jewish hospital in Montreal. The franchisor shut her down as soon as this came out. Good on them.
https://nypost.com/2024/11/26/world-news/jewish-hospital-cafe-owner-caught-on-video-giving-nazi-salute/
To say that the skank is tone deaf would be the understatement of the year. Unfuckingbelievable!